I had no idea what to expect when I met Toben Heim for the first time. He arrived at my door to meet with Chris and me for a day back in December 2008. We were discussing my book and future ministry possibilities. And it was like we’d known each other for years. At 4:00 CST today, Chris and I will be on a radio show that Toben and Ryan Dobson host. If you want to hear it on the Internet, click HERE. Then, click on the Listen Live button. Or, you can download it from iTunes in a couple of days. Have a great day!